This article is too tentative about the scope of the project. For instance, there is no "probably" to the issue of coordinated control; at base it's a military operation. It's also tentative about the feasibility of storm steering, but this technology has been used for decades (starting with the Russians). https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LOAD1SE_ueI [poor quality video but high quality information]. The point about deflection and gatekeeping is totally true, but its fairly superficial; it applies to queries about whether geoenginering exists, not queries about who runs it or why, which are basically stonewalled and denied. Most undiscussed is the fact that as a "defense" program it sprays continually to maintain an electrified/sensitive atmosphere for detecting incoming objects, missiles or "other". In addition, the storm-steering technology is based on "new physical principles" (cf Russian comments) that the military doesn't want released. So while the article is good at illuminating the program's obfuscation by gatekeepers who don't know much, it proceeds from a base of partial certainty. For more certainty, see especially Elana Freeland's books.
Well, it looks like Substack is fast becoming like all the rest sadly. With people who attack as soon as anyone even dares mention the name of Bill Gates the selected bogeyman where those mentions will lead to deleted comments and personal attacks and insults all because they have a message they want put out that no conversation can ever be had about any of this. My comment that I posted was with the intent to show our government has known, they have Geoengineering in their own words, they fund this directly, NOAA scientists lobby for this funding under an umbrella term. It is not conspiracy porn to show that our government is allowing people like Bill Gates, Peter Thiel, Elon Musk, George Soros and others to be the face of all of this manipulation of our planetary ecosystem for their own gains. It is for everyone to decide for themselves if they are being fooled or not, to do their own research, we are not all scientists, but they use them to confuse us, always changing the terminology, they set traps for us all to fall into so that when we attempt to describe what we are experiencing the very terms they themselves created have already been shelved away for the next psychological manipulation, the next new terminology making fools of us all. Kristofer Pister, Richard C. Walker, these are names and faces of people our government have placed on SMART DUST at UC Berkeley and a very suspect FAA patent that calls us all "wet ware" that also describes being able to disable any vehicle and to monitor us all be it by way of the radius of the FAA and its Emergency Matrix or by some other means, either way, they were already set to manipulate us all by telling us this would require an electrode, implant or wearable device of some kind every step of the way creating new terminology. Now, we are all of us arguing about this garbage and whether or not this gatekeeper or that one is using the right language or not. Who cares? We are all being duped. Their system uses faces like Bill Gates, Kristofer Pister, Peter Schwartz, Elon Musk, Eric Schmidt, Sergey Brin, Mark Zuckerberg or some other, so that they have someone to blame, then they will just disappear them that is their game. When I say Bill Gates it is because they use his shell companies or Soros' or whomever is the latest bogeyman. In 1976, it was Dr. David Sencer, today it is Anthony Fauci. We also have Dr. James Giordano and others, they disappear them after using them to cause so much damage. You have proven nothing.
Well, I hate to tell you, but Gates, Soros, Peter Thiel all these people do fund these projects they hide behind their little shell companies, so go ahead and act like they are not involved in this garbage because all of them are linked to the Epstein network going back to the 1990's and their billionaire dinners club, Peter Schwartz and many others like Sergey Brin were at these dinners. Epstein began helping the Rothschild bankers establish their Conservation banking at the first UN Agenda, even Epstein admitted who was largely funding some of his actions. It is the same garbage, they use people like this to set up companies like Make Sunsets, and Oxitech when we know it is government doing it. Congress funds this and there is decades of proof. I am not subscribing to what you said, it is in fact easily provable to be the case.
There are few regulations regarding aerosol spraying of anything, from airplanes. NOAA doesn’t regulate this, but lawfully requires forms for any & all aerial dispersal, weeks before the “ spray.” This information is suppose to be made public upon request. The website shows minimal activity & dated info. on actual weather manipulating activity.
If NOAA wants the information prior to it happening, then someone is overseeing this. If we decided to fund a project that would drop marshmallows from the sky, or lab altered mosquitoes ( Gates)🤦♀️, who stops to question that? EPA? FAA?
They are both mostly silent about chemtrails, and still want to call them “ contrails”.
It IS a “ con”, so there’s that. But, the public deserves to know & we won’t stop searching for the truth, and verifying it completely.
Trust is never won by continued secrecy.
“ National Security” & ongoing repeated “ experiments” on mitigating climate will only increase skepticism.
Thanks for sharing this & digging deeper. We need to question everything & continue to, until the answers are given. And then question those.
What they are using now is from what I have seen in various discussions along with what my own experience has been damaging the entire planet not to mention the neuro toxic effects that are being felt by citizens during these operations, something is different about what they are doing, and the effects are not exactly uniform as some report that there is bacteria like material raining down on them, others are reporting strange fibers in the charged atmosphere that they have collected in different samples.
There are so many out there documenting this, citizen scientists, I suppose is what we should call them. They are taking pictures and gathering samples, then posting this evidence, much of the time when there is a fire, a major storm, there are first the noted reportedly strange local weather patterns, citizens are now documenting all of this and posting it on different platforms. In Florida, evidence points to bacteria being used along with the geoengineered mosquitoes funded mostly by the Bill Gates crowd. In Kentucky, there seems to be some other type of material being used that leaves behind a kind of soot all over everything and that is killing the grass, plants and trees in some cases, it is quite a strange thing that is happening and it is really evidence of a real lack of restraint in what is being allowed and what is the real purpose behind it. One has to think this is organized depopulation by the fact of the lack of openness, the lack of any regulation and the proven fact of Congressional knowledge that people have uncovered.
It's strange that you assume I'm not already familiar with the conspiracy nonsense pumped out by these well-known grifters and charlatans. Believe it or not, you did not stumble upon some unique truth all the scientists are colluding with elites to hide. If your entire premise starts with a thing that isn't true, then moves on to referencing Wigington, it's safe to reject your following assertions as completely unserious.
I have had a weather eye open most of my life, spending a lot of that time working in coastal waters and getting away on the odd sailing trip. The bit where the dry stuff gets wet, the coast, is where most deaths occur in the marine environment so knowing which way the wind and current are travelling is a really basic need. I started looking at Chemtrails/Geoengineering about 10 years ago because I was seeing some very odd cloud formations that I hadn't seen in the last half century. Doesn't take long to get in a fight on that subject Huh? We decided that before we could begin to understand what was going on up there we had better see what our normal flying machines were doing to us...from Piper Cherokees to ICBM's. This is the result of our digging...https://dangerousglobe.com/news/chemtrails-contrails-controversies/
A bit disrespectful to refer to my comment so derisively in an article rather than just responding to me directly, no? Especially since you've clearly misinterpreted it. There's zero "gatekeeping" invoked, I was simply highlighting that Jem has been in this mode for a long time, and has seen all the tricks used to direct blame towards whoever this week's boogeyman with agency is, rather than systems we are all captive of and collapse that is already baked in. "Conspiracy porn" refers to a specific Bendell article, where he states (correctly) that many people are looking for conspiratorial narratives to explain collapse events, especially regarding the breakdown of climate systems (https://jembendell.com/2023/08/21/conspiracyporn-hits-hawaii-and-the-world/). In this case he is responding to the Hawaii fires, but this applies equally to the conflation of multiple things many people are calling "geoengineering". He at least makes the distinction clearly, but the vast majority of "compulsive conspirators" (and some politicians) point to regular vapour trails that have existed for decades as "spraying", then go on about stratospheric aerosol injection, then cloud seeding, without taking a breath. As Bendell describes, this is a psychological reaction for people who need someone to blame, rather than accepting that emergent systems are now in charge. Personally, I'm convinced many of the conspiracies are planted precisely to keep people distracted and blaming "elites" or each other, so they are too occupied to take the radical constructive action required to prepare, while the "elites" build bunkers.
As for this one specific issue, a basic back of the envelope calculation will tell you cloud seeding in Texas (especially days before) had nothing to do with a tropical storm or even a single thunderstorm. Cloud seeding is an experimental system that barely works, if it does at all, and it only enhances existing clouds by a small percentage. The idea that a small plane at <10,000 feet doing cloud seeding can create or even mildly influence a giant storm is logically and physically impossible. The energy involved is orders of magnitude higher, for a start. This is an example of applying agency to systems that are influenced by humans, but on a massively different scale and in a different way. Cloud seeding will do almost nothing at that scale, pumping billions of tons of buried sunlight into the atmosphere for 200 years will. Look at the online comments any time there's a big climate disaster, they are full of people defaulting to conspiracy explanations about "weather modification", rather than a nod to the longer term breakdown of climatic systems as a result of flooding the atmosphere with greenhouse gases. This type of compulsive contrarianism only exists in a population that is scientifically illiterate and unable to notice when they are being fed convenient scapegoats to direct their anger at and it's EVERYWHERE. At the moment, it's largely directed at things that don't exist or aren't a concern - 15 minute cities, weather modification, etc, rather than the actual conspiracy - big oil exec "elites" who verifiably lied for decades and apparently get a free pass.
I despise the government for many reasons, and yes, we should absolutely be very skeptical of anything institutions tell us. However, this does not mean we throw out all scientific rationality, knowledge and expertise because some in their fields have become captured by forces that serve the money-power. I've been an avid listener to the show and really enjoy it, but you could absolutely benefit from making the distinction between conspiracies which are not only possible but definitely happening, and reactionary conspiracy porn, which serves only as a blame game distraction, and is designed to be such.
P.S. Paul is my name, it doesn't need quotes. I'm not some nefarious actor trying to convince you there's no conspiracies. I'm just a regular guy with a scientific (aviation/meteorology) background who has studied and acted on collapse issues for 20 years or so.
I have seen some who are analyzing and have built software tracking systems to put in visualized form what is taking place in real time just before these fires and storms. Many like Jim Lee of Climate Viewer and others who have created similar software are noting radio frequency is being used in both instances: in the case of the fires, that often are being blamed on naturally occurring droughts combined with storms. That was the case in Lahaina and the one in New Mexico as well if I am not mistaken. Then, there is Brush Junkie who had begun to look into the 15 minute SMART city agendas putting together the fact of various meetings that had taken place in certain places that had experienced these major disasters trying to correlate a specific agenda to damage the area for implementing the UN ESG SDG garbage.
Some have also pointed to the roll out of 5g and SMART meters having at least some connection to various plans to take over land and resources possibly linking to certain disasters. Debra Tavares had made a connection in the California fires that was identical in the Lahaina fires, the same takeover of water has occurred. In Lahaina Maui area I believe that DARPA and DOD might have had some involvement in lightning experiments there, I think I may have seen that they had a site located there somewhere though this is not hard evidence, I had just been looking into that DARPA had lightning experiments ongoing and this was rather suddenly halted recently after much reporting on this severe lightning being suspected of being unnatural by many.
Thank you for demonstrating the conspiracy porn archetype so wonderfully. I couldn't have done better myself if I'd concocted such a fantastical story. One minor suggestion for improvement - mention Bill Gates, that works really well on the porn addicts.
Hint: "frequency" is a property of a wave. It's really easy to spot bullshit when you have a basic science education.
Thanks for your answers and explanation. The issue in my mind is that science should be respected as you state it. On the other hand, science needs to be questioned as well. Science is question and answer. So do you believe that science knows everything, even those things that you base your definition and explanation on? Or do you believe that even those things you take for granted as science can be questioned?
For those of us are aware of our surroundings, we have clearly seen the evidence. I for one have been frustrated for years because government at the national level seems to not care. What is it going to take before they act to stop the geoengineering?
The “conspiracy theorist camp” should Not be dreaded. It is where the most consistently correct, honest and intelligent people resided in our times. 😂🤣😂🤣
Just like in 'covid era', the public voice (of natural skepticism of authority we 'were told' was our historic birth right) can get no where whatsoever. But with cloud thingamajig going on daily in plain sight and encountering 'whataboutism' responses, this is covid on steroids. Thanks for articulating my concern that we live in a madhouse of lies as it sure feels like it.
This article is too tentative about the scope of the project. For instance, there is no "probably" to the issue of coordinated control; at base it's a military operation. It's also tentative about the feasibility of storm steering, but this technology has been used for decades (starting with the Russians). https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LOAD1SE_ueI [poor quality video but high quality information]. The point about deflection and gatekeeping is totally true, but its fairly superficial; it applies to queries about whether geoenginering exists, not queries about who runs it or why, which are basically stonewalled and denied. Most undiscussed is the fact that as a "defense" program it sprays continually to maintain an electrified/sensitive atmosphere for detecting incoming objects, missiles or "other". In addition, the storm-steering technology is based on "new physical principles" (cf Russian comments) that the military doesn't want released. So while the article is good at illuminating the program's obfuscation by gatekeepers who don't know much, it proceeds from a base of partial certainty. For more certainty, see especially Elana Freeland's books.
Well, it looks like Substack is fast becoming like all the rest sadly. With people who attack as soon as anyone even dares mention the name of Bill Gates the selected bogeyman where those mentions will lead to deleted comments and personal attacks and insults all because they have a message they want put out that no conversation can ever be had about any of this. My comment that I posted was with the intent to show our government has known, they have Geoengineering in their own words, they fund this directly, NOAA scientists lobby for this funding under an umbrella term. It is not conspiracy porn to show that our government is allowing people like Bill Gates, Peter Thiel, Elon Musk, George Soros and others to be the face of all of this manipulation of our planetary ecosystem for their own gains. It is for everyone to decide for themselves if they are being fooled or not, to do their own research, we are not all scientists, but they use them to confuse us, always changing the terminology, they set traps for us all to fall into so that when we attempt to describe what we are experiencing the very terms they themselves created have already been shelved away for the next psychological manipulation, the next new terminology making fools of us all. Kristofer Pister, Richard C. Walker, these are names and faces of people our government have placed on SMART DUST at UC Berkeley and a very suspect FAA patent that calls us all "wet ware" that also describes being able to disable any vehicle and to monitor us all be it by way of the radius of the FAA and its Emergency Matrix or by some other means, either way, they were already set to manipulate us all by telling us this would require an electrode, implant or wearable device of some kind every step of the way creating new terminology. Now, we are all of us arguing about this garbage and whether or not this gatekeeper or that one is using the right language or not. Who cares? We are all being duped. Their system uses faces like Bill Gates, Kristofer Pister, Peter Schwartz, Elon Musk, Eric Schmidt, Sergey Brin, Mark Zuckerberg or some other, so that they have someone to blame, then they will just disappear them that is their game. When I say Bill Gates it is because they use his shell companies or Soros' or whomever is the latest bogeyman. In 1976, it was Dr. David Sencer, today it is Anthony Fauci. We also have Dr. James Giordano and others, they disappear them after using them to cause so much damage. You have proven nothing.
Well, I hate to tell you, but Gates, Soros, Peter Thiel all these people do fund these projects they hide behind their little shell companies, so go ahead and act like they are not involved in this garbage because all of them are linked to the Epstein network going back to the 1990's and their billionaire dinners club, Peter Schwartz and many others like Sergey Brin were at these dinners. Epstein began helping the Rothschild bankers establish their Conservation banking at the first UN Agenda, even Epstein admitted who was largely funding some of his actions. It is the same garbage, they use people like this to set up companies like Make Sunsets, and Oxitech when we know it is government doing it. Congress funds this and there is decades of proof. I am not subscribing to what you said, it is in fact easily provable to be the case.
There are few regulations regarding aerosol spraying of anything, from airplanes. NOAA doesn’t regulate this, but lawfully requires forms for any & all aerial dispersal, weeks before the “ spray.” This information is suppose to be made public upon request. The website shows minimal activity & dated info. on actual weather manipulating activity.
If NOAA wants the information prior to it happening, then someone is overseeing this. If we decided to fund a project that would drop marshmallows from the sky, or lab altered mosquitoes ( Gates)🤦♀️, who stops to question that? EPA? FAA?
They are both mostly silent about chemtrails, and still want to call them “ contrails”.
It IS a “ con”, so there’s that. But, the public deserves to know & we won’t stop searching for the truth, and verifying it completely.
Trust is never won by continued secrecy.
“ National Security” & ongoing repeated “ experiments” on mitigating climate will only increase skepticism.
Thanks for sharing this & digging deeper. We need to question everything & continue to, until the answers are given. And then question those.
What they are using now is from what I have seen in various discussions along with what my own experience has been damaging the entire planet not to mention the neuro toxic effects that are being felt by citizens during these operations, something is different about what they are doing, and the effects are not exactly uniform as some report that there is bacteria like material raining down on them, others are reporting strange fibers in the charged atmosphere that they have collected in different samples.
There are so many out there documenting this, citizen scientists, I suppose is what we should call them. They are taking pictures and gathering samples, then posting this evidence, much of the time when there is a fire, a major storm, there are first the noted reportedly strange local weather patterns, citizens are now documenting all of this and posting it on different platforms. In Florida, evidence points to bacteria being used along with the geoengineered mosquitoes funded mostly by the Bill Gates crowd. In Kentucky, there seems to be some other type of material being used that leaves behind a kind of soot all over everything and that is killing the grass, plants and trees in some cases, it is quite a strange thing that is happening and it is really evidence of a real lack of restraint in what is being allowed and what is the real purpose behind it. One has to think this is organized depopulation by the fact of the lack of openness, the lack of any regulation and the proven fact of Congressional knowledge that people have uncovered.
An exhaustive investigation into geoengineering.
https://secularheretic.substack.com/p/a-compendium-of-information-about
So “exhaustive” you forgot to mention there's no aluminum in jet fuel.
There are 28 links to detailed articles in that post. Clearly you could not have read all of them in the few minutes since I posted that link.
It's strange that you assume I'm not already familiar with the conspiracy nonsense pumped out by these well-known grifters and charlatans. Believe it or not, you did not stumble upon some unique truth all the scientists are colluding with elites to hide. If your entire premise starts with a thing that isn't true, then moves on to referencing Wigington, it's safe to reject your following assertions as completely unserious.
I have had a weather eye open most of my life, spending a lot of that time working in coastal waters and getting away on the odd sailing trip. The bit where the dry stuff gets wet, the coast, is where most deaths occur in the marine environment so knowing which way the wind and current are travelling is a really basic need. I started looking at Chemtrails/Geoengineering about 10 years ago because I was seeing some very odd cloud formations that I hadn't seen in the last half century. Doesn't take long to get in a fight on that subject Huh? We decided that before we could begin to understand what was going on up there we had better see what our normal flying machines were doing to us...from Piper Cherokees to ICBM's. This is the result of our digging...https://dangerousglobe.com/news/chemtrails-contrails-controversies/
A bit disrespectful to refer to my comment so derisively in an article rather than just responding to me directly, no? Especially since you've clearly misinterpreted it. There's zero "gatekeeping" invoked, I was simply highlighting that Jem has been in this mode for a long time, and has seen all the tricks used to direct blame towards whoever this week's boogeyman with agency is, rather than systems we are all captive of and collapse that is already baked in. "Conspiracy porn" refers to a specific Bendell article, where he states (correctly) that many people are looking for conspiratorial narratives to explain collapse events, especially regarding the breakdown of climate systems (https://jembendell.com/2023/08/21/conspiracyporn-hits-hawaii-and-the-world/). In this case he is responding to the Hawaii fires, but this applies equally to the conflation of multiple things many people are calling "geoengineering". He at least makes the distinction clearly, but the vast majority of "compulsive conspirators" (and some politicians) point to regular vapour trails that have existed for decades as "spraying", then go on about stratospheric aerosol injection, then cloud seeding, without taking a breath. As Bendell describes, this is a psychological reaction for people who need someone to blame, rather than accepting that emergent systems are now in charge. Personally, I'm convinced many of the conspiracies are planted precisely to keep people distracted and blaming "elites" or each other, so they are too occupied to take the radical constructive action required to prepare, while the "elites" build bunkers.
As for this one specific issue, a basic back of the envelope calculation will tell you cloud seeding in Texas (especially days before) had nothing to do with a tropical storm or even a single thunderstorm. Cloud seeding is an experimental system that barely works, if it does at all, and it only enhances existing clouds by a small percentage. The idea that a small plane at <10,000 feet doing cloud seeding can create or even mildly influence a giant storm is logically and physically impossible. The energy involved is orders of magnitude higher, for a start. This is an example of applying agency to systems that are influenced by humans, but on a massively different scale and in a different way. Cloud seeding will do almost nothing at that scale, pumping billions of tons of buried sunlight into the atmosphere for 200 years will. Look at the online comments any time there's a big climate disaster, they are full of people defaulting to conspiracy explanations about "weather modification", rather than a nod to the longer term breakdown of climatic systems as a result of flooding the atmosphere with greenhouse gases. This type of compulsive contrarianism only exists in a population that is scientifically illiterate and unable to notice when they are being fed convenient scapegoats to direct their anger at and it's EVERYWHERE. At the moment, it's largely directed at things that don't exist or aren't a concern - 15 minute cities, weather modification, etc, rather than the actual conspiracy - big oil exec "elites" who verifiably lied for decades and apparently get a free pass.
I despise the government for many reasons, and yes, we should absolutely be very skeptical of anything institutions tell us. However, this does not mean we throw out all scientific rationality, knowledge and expertise because some in their fields have become captured by forces that serve the money-power. I've been an avid listener to the show and really enjoy it, but you could absolutely benefit from making the distinction between conspiracies which are not only possible but definitely happening, and reactionary conspiracy porn, which serves only as a blame game distraction, and is designed to be such.
P.S. Paul is my name, it doesn't need quotes. I'm not some nefarious actor trying to convince you there's no conspiracies. I'm just a regular guy with a scientific (aviation/meteorology) background who has studied and acted on collapse issues for 20 years or so.
I have seen some who are analyzing and have built software tracking systems to put in visualized form what is taking place in real time just before these fires and storms. Many like Jim Lee of Climate Viewer and others who have created similar software are noting radio frequency is being used in both instances: in the case of the fires, that often are being blamed on naturally occurring droughts combined with storms. That was the case in Lahaina and the one in New Mexico as well if I am not mistaken. Then, there is Brush Junkie who had begun to look into the 15 minute SMART city agendas putting together the fact of various meetings that had taken place in certain places that had experienced these major disasters trying to correlate a specific agenda to damage the area for implementing the UN ESG SDG garbage.
Some have also pointed to the roll out of 5g and SMART meters having at least some connection to various plans to take over land and resources possibly linking to certain disasters. Debra Tavares had made a connection in the California fires that was identical in the Lahaina fires, the same takeover of water has occurred. In Lahaina Maui area I believe that DARPA and DOD might have had some involvement in lightning experiments there, I think I may have seen that they had a site located there somewhere though this is not hard evidence, I had just been looking into that DARPA had lightning experiments ongoing and this was rather suddenly halted recently after much reporting on this severe lightning being suspected of being unnatural by many.
Thank you for demonstrating the conspiracy porn archetype so wonderfully. I couldn't have done better myself if I'd concocted such a fantastical story. One minor suggestion for improvement - mention Bill Gates, that works really well on the porn addicts.
Hint: "frequency" is a property of a wave. It's really easy to spot bullshit when you have a basic science education.
Thanks for your answers and explanation. The issue in my mind is that science should be respected as you state it. On the other hand, science needs to be questioned as well. Science is question and answer. So do you believe that science knows everything, even those things that you base your definition and explanation on? Or do you believe that even those things you take for granted as science can be questioned?
PPS. There's no aluminum in jet fuel.
For those of us are aware of our surroundings, we have clearly seen the evidence. I for one have been frustrated for years because government at the national level seems to not care. What is it going to take before they act to stop the geoengineering?
What "geoengineering" is currently happening?
The “conspiracy theorist camp” should Not be dreaded. It is where the most consistently correct, honest and intelligent people resided in our times. 😂🤣😂🤣
Just like in 'covid era', the public voice (of natural skepticism of authority we 'were told' was our historic birth right) can get no where whatsoever. But with cloud thingamajig going on daily in plain sight and encountering 'whataboutism' responses, this is covid on steroids. Thanks for articulating my concern that we live in a madhouse of lies as it sure feels like it.