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soshulmedia's avatar

Great points in the article.

A couple ideas and hypotheses which I find rarely mentioned, from a (massive?) conspiracy angle whilst trying to stay true to what I think is indeed basic science. To make sure it is not misunderstood:

I am not asserting _any_ of the below happens, I am merely speculating along the lines of what is possible and with the default assumption that there are evil forces at work who have a large impulse to indeed screw around with the climate/weather (e.g. the U.S. military with their "weather as a force multiplier" paper...):

- I think the idea that airline jets in general deliver all kinds of (toxic) salt compounds is rather a poisoning-the-well tactic, as this would require large scale logistics and more importantly effectively gagging a quite large size of the airline industry as well as causing a lot of wear and tear on aircraft jet engines. So even though that is often repeated, I find it very implausible.

- However, one should think hard about the "butterfly effect" in this day and age. With massive computing power, it is possible to forward-calculate multiple different weather scenarios where just a tiny bit changed but having larger effects down the road, like for example a comparatively tiny patch where a single airplane did some silver iodide seeding or so. In other words, lots of computing power could allow to better figure out the "weak spots" in any complex weather scenario and then "attack" the weather with -scale-wise- just pin pricks, but potentially with a much larger effect.

- Back to airlines: There are papers (IIRC from the 1970s even) which discuss at length how soot in the upper atmosphere can drastically impact the weather. And as you wrote in the article, jet engines produce this kind of soot and impact.

But, more importantly, the amount of soot could be _varied_ with just a little bit of tweaking to the jet engine control SOFTWARE, by just imbalancing the set fuel:air ratio however so slightly.

I am furthermore sure that it is trivial for a) the software in jet engines to have/get a live GPS coordinate feed and then one should also note that for both proprietary trade secret industrial reasons as well as potential military use of engine types, likely just VERY few people have access to the software running there. Which is a perfect setup for a conspiracy / three-letter-agency work.

And the impact could be hard to overstate: By just uploading a couple data tables in software without anyone noticing, varying amounts of soot could be generated pretty much across large areas of the planet.

I am not saying this happens, but if you think about it would absolutely be the place for the devil to be. In the details.

- A bit away from the above, I do find it entirely plausible that programs such as the "747 with lasers" can be extended to space use. For LEO, optics would scale with about the ratio of distances, so maybe 20x larger or so than a 747 at 10..15km altitude. Seems very doable. AFAIR, the "JAL" program was stopped because "it only worked against soft targets". Well, forests are soft targets, and IIRC in 2023 or so, there were wild fires in Canada which suddenly all started at about the same time (~1h window or so) all across a large area. If I were the devil and if I wanted to ignite a couple wild fires, a space laser would certainly be a nifty tool to have ...

But on the other hand, I find that subsuming it all under "directed energy weapons" also often happens hand in hand with well-poisoning-tactics, inventing "exotic weaponry" and so forth, so it is a thorny subject.

Keith's avatar

I was unable to attend the discussion with Jem Bendell. Sounds like it was a lively one! Also sparking a lively discussion in the comments section. This topic really seems to elicit a lot of emotions.

Brian Glubok's avatar

Thank you, Collapse Life, for this measured and lucid summary providing some core facts about a very important matter.

And let's bear in mind that: We get the society we deserve. Bad guys are always present, and when, as individuals, we neglect our core civic obligations - to be informed, to operate broadly within ethical and societal norms - then we end up with a collapsing society. It shouldn't be a surprise.

When those societal norms deteriorate - as ours have - then this world, the one we're inhabiting today - this is what we're left with.

Let's celebrate what's good about what remains, and work on slowing the inexorable, if not inevitable, collapse.

- BG

Just Puppets's avatar

Well done for spotting the gaslighting technique you mention of Bendell. I don’t know his work, but I have seen the same with Jim Lee. Here he appears in an interview with Jerm Warfare

In this piece you see him at work as gaslighter extraordinaire: Yes there’s weather mod, no there’s not, you’re wrong, yes it’s happening, you’re a dummy if u believe chemtrails, yes you’re right, you’re wrong, trust me… etc

He makes u jump hoops around a big nothing burger that u can understand or act on, while discrediting any coordination or other people.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=jyI2vjEk5Wc

Just Puppets's avatar

1. Open the free Windy app (app or web) -> select the cloud (satellite) view → look for ripple type clouds indicating emf interference. Scroll the timeline to see their movement. Generally happening globally, often over Australia & Europe. 8h ago over Mozambique, Vilanculos. (windy changed their app, speeding up transitions making it harder to see but u can still see it once you’re familiar with these clouds)

2. Similar to above, but look for strange cloud formations, specifically squares & straight lines, indicating some sort of influencing beams - also holes / displacements in clouds like a dispersant was dropped.

3. Similar to above -> select the radar view, look for large emanating radar beams / large circles. (Windy changed the app, making these less detectable, but can still be found, just not as obvious). See egs below from before the app was changed. Big beams often over NE coast of India: https://ibb.co/Fkyx75nL

4. Look in the sky for ripple clouds (point 1)

5. Look in the sky for rainbow reflection off clouds, also at night. Similar to oil slicks in water, it’s the dirt reflecting off the clouds.

These are just a few of many examples of visible evidence. Zoom weather is another free app where these are visible.

The tiny operators mentioned in the post might just be smoke screens, or both. This is such a large & extensive operation, it must be military in origin (plus military docs state “owning the weather by 2025”)

Honeybee's avatar

When I red pilled in 2015, weather geoengineering was the first rabbit hole I explored. I had had a "flu-like" condition which repeatedly reappeared from 1-3x a year. Doctors kept referring to "allergy problems."

I became exasperated and returned to an overly commercialized network I'd left years prior to research. My own diagnosis was "chemtrail flu." I underwent heavy metal detox and have never had a reoccurrence.

Since that time, I've concluded that the massive spraying is one cause of the planet heating. The gases and particles act as insulators trapping more heat. I've seldomly seen this explanation but did in your article. So good to see!!!

The nifty Catch-22 is that, while ramping up the heat, the same people can bemoan the over-heating planet because of mankind's technology thereby justifying stripping people of convenience and modern living. We just saw this over-labored notion advanced by a French gov. official who accuses the U.S.' usage of A/C as causing "global warming."

The very real fact such stupidity continually hides is that the massive spraying heats the planet like a greenhouse. The Earth still receives goodly sunshine much like the sun shines through the greenhouse glass or plastic heating the inside far more greatly than the outside. For people with snowy, cold winters, such greenhouses are a God-send to producing crops in a shortened growing season.

The correlation of massive sky spraying by governments and the heavily heating planet needs to be drawn again and again because the propaganda and silence from governments is so overwhelming. This massive spraying is both heating the planet and sickening people. They're butchers against humanity.

By the way, I read a psychic years ago who hypothesized that the skies were "electrified" to enable the smart bombs and current warfare systems...not deflect the sun's rays back into space. The electrical particles enable the "smart" mechanisms to operate and function more fully. Think of the wars currently ongoing advanced largely by drones--I suspect these drones and the operators' computer screens depend heavily on an electrified atmosphere.

Ionedery2's avatar

Trust? What trust? I think geoengineering is a big problem because spraying any toxin is a big problem. Farmers are allowed to spray glyphosate for instance. People have to eat so... a trade off occurs; a little harm for the good abundant food. The harm is there but it's not recognized and downplayed. Money drives it all and has a momentum. Corporations involved need profits. So the risk is "disappeared" with clever propaganda tactics and the benefits glorified.

But just like the covid fiasco and now the climate fiasco, dissenting voices are ridiculed and silenced to keep the money and power flowing in a system that can't and won't change. In the case of climate change and net zero agenda it has become so ingrained and boosted by media, the ideology in play for decades, that reality and scientific analysis are forbidden topics. I highly recommend "Canary in a Climate World" to get a glimpse of what the real agenda is, and why they will hide the truth.

Sean Arthur Joyce's avatar

I live in a semi-remote area of southeastern British Columbia where have only two small airports in the region, both of which have major flights out to Vancouver or Calgary only once per day. Yet there are days when we see a continuous traffic of jets belching the trademark white trails that spread out to form cloud cover. This is clearly not commercial jet traffic given our limited local service. I highly recommend Peter Kirby's book Chemtrails Exposed: A New Manhattan Project, which provides the patents and the historical timeline of this technology.

Paul's avatar

Which airport? I live in BC and probably identify the source of traffic. However, if you are really that close you won't see vapour trails so it's likely those jets aren't going there.

Sean Arthur Joyce's avatar

Castlegar and Trail airports. Only one small carrier works out of Trail, Pacific Coastal. I've flown with them. Air Canada only has one flight per day into and out of Castlegar that I know of.

John Day MD's avatar

Not, "either - or", but All of the Above, is the appropriate perspective. Bendell is visible enough to get threatened (and has a job), I think.

Let me say that chemtrails persist in the sky, unlike the contrails I watched as a child growing up on USMC bases during Vietnam. They are a real thing, whatever might be in them.

I saw them from around 1995 or so in Austin, thin lines at different altitudes in grid crosshatches back then. I figured the military was mapping the airflows over Austin for civil-defense purposes, in case of nuclear fallout... That's reasonable, right?

Chemtrails are all over the place now, and fluffier/denser, sometimes billowing across the sky with breezes from a sharp line laid out by a big jet. There are also thinner ones, ones that stop and start, and so on.

It seems that nobody looks up much these days, or maybeit is too socially dangerous of a topic to broach.

"Weather As A Force Multiplier, Owning The Weather in 2025" is a public 1996 USAF publication, available here: https://www.scribd.com/document/344876384/Weather-As-A-Force-Multiplier

Climate Physicist, Anastassia Makarieva, co-originator of the "Biotic Pump" model, which explains how forests draw rain to themselves across continents, has a blog which looks at more than merely CO2. (Her work is largely ignored by climate-orthodoxy, as you may expect.)

Yes, destruction of old growth forests and oceanic ecosystems changes the weather on our planet.

They Are Working: Forests, Rainfall, and Rethinking “Sustainable Forestry”

An edited MEER Podcast conversation on the biotic pump, intact forest resilience, the climatic work of natural ecosystems, and the pace of scientific change https://substack.com/home/post/p-198948808

DC's avatar

This article is too tentative about the scope of the project. For instance, there is no "probably" to the issue of coordinated control; at base it's a military operation. It's also tentative about the feasibility of storm steering, but this technology has been used for decades (starting with the Russians). https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LOAD1SE_ueI [poor quality video but high quality information]. The point about deflection and gatekeeping is totally true, but its fairly superficial; it applies to queries about whether geoenginering exists, not queries about who runs it or why, which are basically stonewalled and denied. Most undiscussed is the fact that as a "defense" program it sprays continually to maintain an electrified/sensitive atmosphere for detecting incoming objects, missiles or "other". In addition, the storm-steering technology is based on "new physical principles" (cf Russian comments) that the military doesn't want released. So while the article is good at illuminating the program's obfuscation by gatekeepers who don't know much, it proceeds from a base of partial certainty. For more certainty, see especially Elana Freeland's books.

OnlytheTruth's avatar

Well, it looks like Substack is fast becoming like all the rest sadly. With people who attack as soon as anyone even dares mention the name of Bill Gates the selected bogeyman where those mentions will lead to deleted comments and personal attacks and insults all because they have a message they want put out that no conversation can ever be had about any of this. My comment that I posted was with the intent to show our government has known, they have Geoengineering in their own words, they fund this directly, NOAA scientists lobby for this funding under an umbrella term. It is not conspiracy porn to show that our government is allowing people like Bill Gates, Peter Thiel, Elon Musk, George Soros and others to be the face of all of this manipulation of our planetary ecosystem for their own gains. It is for everyone to decide for themselves if they are being fooled or not, to do their own research, we are not all scientists, but they use them to confuse us, always changing the terminology, they set traps for us all to fall into so that when we attempt to describe what we are experiencing the very terms they themselves created have already been shelved away for the next psychological manipulation, the next new terminology making fools of us all. Kristofer Pister, Richard C. Walker, these are names and faces of people our government have placed on SMART DUST at UC Berkeley and a very suspect FAA patent that calls us all "wet ware" that also describes being able to disable any vehicle and to monitor us all be it by way of the radius of the FAA and its Emergency Matrix or by some other means, either way, they were already set to manipulate us all by telling us this would require an electrode, implant or wearable device of some kind every step of the way creating new terminology. Now, we are all of us arguing about this garbage and whether or not this gatekeeper or that one is using the right language or not. Who cares? We are all being duped. Their system uses faces like Bill Gates, Kristofer Pister, Peter Schwartz, Elon Musk, Eric Schmidt, Sergey Brin, Mark Zuckerberg or some other, so that they have someone to blame, then they will just disappear them that is their game. When I say Bill Gates it is because they use his shell companies or Soros' or whomever is the latest bogeyman. In 1976, it was Dr. David Sencer, today it is Anthony Fauci. We also have Dr. James Giordano and others, they disappear them after using them to cause so much damage. You have proven nothing.

OnlytheTruth's avatar

Well, I hate to tell you, but Gates, Soros, Peter Thiel all these people do fund these projects they hide behind their little shell companies, so go ahead and act like they are not involved in this garbage because all of them are linked to the Epstein network going back to the 1990's and their billionaire dinners club, Peter Schwartz and many others like Sergey Brin were at these dinners. Epstein began helping the Rothschild bankers establish their Conservation banking at the first UN Agenda, even Epstein admitted who was largely funding some of his actions. It is the same garbage, they use people like this to set up companies like Make Sunsets, and Oxitech when we know it is government doing it. Congress funds this and there is decades of proof. I am not subscribing to what you said, it is in fact easily provable to be the case.

AlmostLastRepublicaninSeattle's avatar

There are few regulations regarding aerosol spraying of anything, from airplanes. NOAA doesn’t regulate this, but lawfully requires forms for any & all aerial dispersal, weeks before the “ spray.” This information is suppose to be made public upon request. The website shows minimal activity & dated info. on actual weather manipulating activity.

If NOAA wants the information prior to it happening, then someone is overseeing this. If we decided to fund a project that would drop marshmallows from the sky, or lab altered mosquitoes ( Gates)🤦‍♀️, who stops to question that? EPA? FAA?

They are both mostly silent about chemtrails, and still want to call them “ contrails”.

It IS a “ con”, so there’s that. But, the public deserves to know & we won’t stop searching for the truth, and verifying it completely.

Trust is never won by continued secrecy.

“ National Security” & ongoing repeated “ experiments” on mitigating climate will only increase skepticism.

Thanks for sharing this & digging deeper. We need to question everything & continue to, until the answers are given. And then question those.

OnlytheTruth's avatar

What they are using now is from what I have seen in various discussions along with what my own experience has been damaging the entire planet not to mention the neuro toxic effects that are being felt by citizens during these operations, something is different about what they are doing, and the effects are not exactly uniform as some report that there is bacteria like material raining down on them, others are reporting strange fibers in the charged atmosphere that they have collected in different samples.

There are so many out there documenting this, citizen scientists, I suppose is what we should call them. They are taking pictures and gathering samples, then posting this evidence, much of the time when there is a fire, a major storm, there are first the noted reportedly strange local weather patterns, citizens are now documenting all of this and posting it on different platforms. In Florida, evidence points to bacteria being used along with the geoengineered mosquitoes funded mostly by the Bill Gates crowd. In Kentucky, there seems to be some other type of material being used that leaves behind a kind of soot all over everything and that is killing the grass, plants and trees in some cases, it is quite a strange thing that is happening and it is really evidence of a real lack of restraint in what is being allowed and what is the real purpose behind it. One has to think this is organized depopulation by the fact of the lack of openness, the lack of any regulation and the proven fact of Congressional knowledge that people have uncovered.

Paul's avatar

So “exhaustive” you forgot to mention there's no aluminum in jet fuel.

Kyle Young's avatar

There are 28 links to detailed articles in that post. Clearly you could not have read all of them in the few minutes since I posted that link.

Paul's avatar

It's strange that you assume I'm not already familiar with the conspiracy nonsense pumped out by these well-known grifters and charlatans. Believe it or not, you did not stumble upon some unique truth all the scientists are colluding with elites to hide. If your entire premise starts with a thing that isn't true, then moves on to referencing Wigington, it's safe to reject your following assertions as completely unserious.

Tony Broomfield's avatar

I have had a weather eye open most of my life, spending a lot of that time working in coastal waters and getting away on the odd sailing trip. The bit where the dry stuff gets wet, the coast, is where most deaths occur in the marine environment so knowing which way the wind and current are travelling is a really basic need. I started looking at Chemtrails/Geoengineering about 10 years ago because I was seeing some very odd cloud formations that I hadn't seen in the last half century. Doesn't take long to get in a fight on that subject Huh? We decided that before we could begin to understand what was going on up there we had better see what our normal flying machines were doing to us...from Piper Cherokees to ICBM's. This is the result of our digging...https://dangerousglobe.com/news/chemtrails-contrails-controversies/