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Jun 18Edited

Valid points for SOME of the items on the list, and yet other items fit well into a picture of democracy, freedom, and human well being. I think this article throws the baby out with the bath water a bit.

You and I agree on some things in the spirit of a meta-crisis with collapse issues! I'm a fiscally conservative, family-focused, and pretty traditional American husband and father. But I think it's important to understand different groups can have overlap of good efforts and initiatives. I'm very anti-big govt, pro small business, pro freedom, and pro local small farms & food.

"A four-day workweek." - This won't ruin the world - might really help, studies show many workers only get 4-5 REAL hours of work done daily. So much waste today to appease an outdated 9-5 factory model.

"Half of the cars on the road than those we have today – replaced by public transport and autonomous vehicle sharing." - Too much Car-centric living in USA is why many Americans visit Europe. Insurance, wrecks, deaths, etc are a huge cost. We do need cars, but better urban planning and alternatives is great.

"Most major cities have been remade to be more walkable, bikeable, and friendly to public transport, with an obnoxious number of parks and greenspaces available to the public." - This is awesome. Whoever said parks are obnoxious? This comment makes the article sound anti-human XD

"Universal basic income." - I agree with you. This is a bad idea. Humans need work, useful work.

"Public job guarantees." - I also agree with you. This is too big from a govt perspective.

"Universal public services." - I also agree with you here. This is too big from a govt perspective.

"Products that last 3 times as long as they do now due to laws against planned obsolescence." - This would be a big win. Planned obsolescence is terrible for consumers and our natural world. Companies are cranking out garbage today.

"One-third of the world is rewilded due to much less meat consumption." - Too drastic. We DO need to restore more wild areas, but not at the expense of living humans.

"The meat that is consumed is largely lab grown." - Agree 100%. I will never eat lab grown meat.

"Wild animals repopulate our rewilded spaces, with cattle, pigs and sheep only 10% of their current numbers." -- CAFOS are not great. We do need more local food prodcution and regenerative ag -- see Joel Salatin. We do need less crappy cheap meat for many people, and some people with no local meat need access. It's complicated. We need to align meat production with older more traditional methods.

"High speed rail replaces short haul flights." We do need more trains, but we can still have planes? Seems drastic.

"Power generation is 90 percent “green.” - Not realistic. Solar and wind are great, but won't power today's economy. Only works if we live more simply. Simple is not always bad. It's complex.

"No power source dominates with solar, wind, hydrogen, geothermal, hydro, and other novel technologies all playing a role." - A good mix is not bad.

"Population growth peaked in the early 2040s – with many job guarantees focused on elder care as the world transitions from a gray one to a population that will dip under 7 billion by 2100." - Population growth is peaking now by many accounts. This is just cause and effect. Western countries and industrialized living ensures many people stop having many kids. Our city-based, car-based, materialistic, expensive lifestyle is killing our repopulation rate in rich countries. Agrarian counties still have kids. We need a balance to maintain 2.1 kid growth rate.

"GDP is no longer the official scorecard of nations, instead human well-being metrics dominate." - GDP is a terrible metric for human thriving. This just makes sense. GDP alone is a metric for the wealthy elite.

A more balanced view would be refreshing. Some of these things would be good, some would be bad. I think some of these efforts are dangerous, and others could be a good change. Humans are a mixed bunch.

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“If I were reincarnated I would wish to be returned to Earth as a killer virus to lower human population levels.”

Prince Phillip

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