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Witsd's avatar

I’m glad that Jesus and the Bible are present in the subject matter of these discussions. Jesus is the supreme answer to our human condition and the redeemer of our souls for eternity. This life on earth is brief. Maybe Jesus should occupy more of the discussion.

Gerald's avatar

“But that doesn’t mean collapse is a mistaken idea. It just means we’re already living inside it, and being trained not to notice or properly recognize it …”

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Indeed, what would a Great Depression 2.0 in the West even look like in the 21st century? Perhaps we’re already living in it.

For example, despite 35 years of decline since the Bubble burst here in Japan, socioeconomics here in Japan still function better than back home in suburban Rust Belt Ohio during my 70’s & 80’s childhood 😳

Japan makes America look poor, but Americans have grown used to it; they still think of themselves as ‘middle class.’

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“… You can see it most clearly in the economy, where official statistics insist on growth, but lived reality tells a different story.”

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GDP 🤔 … All USA population growth since 1970 is foreign population growth 😳, either immigrants or the 1st or 2nd US born generation of immigrants 😳

The indigenous white, black, brown, & yellow US population (i.e. not the aboriginal “red man” population), has failed to reproduce at replacement rates since 1970 😳

So, as we have not been producing a lot of happy housewives (because it takes two salaries post-sexual revolution to buy what one salary could buy pre-sexual revolution), and as we have not been producing children, then what exactly has GDP been measuring these past 55 years ???!!! 😡😡😡

Susan Harley's avatar

This is an excellent interview , not just because you mention me ! It should be recommended listening to empower and bring everyone up todate .

Zahra you are brilliant you are so well informed , confident and balanced.

TriTorch's avatar

Solutions:

We first need to build a platform of local strength, self-dependence, and resiliency. Once done, and we have a solid foundation from which to stand, from there we begin working on taking back the higher levels: country, state, federal.

The following solutions were crowdsouced from various forums across the web. I have distilled them into this:

The solution is to get local, get self-dependent, get the common unity back in community by building webs of resilience with your neighbors, get control of your school boards, mayors and sherrif's office, and town councils (the last places we still hold all of the cards), get a garden in your lawn no matter how small, a single tomato plant is better than nothing, get a well (water is your most important resource hands down), get ready, get moving, get doing, and, if so inclined, get God.

Detailed:

Don't build a bigger fence to keep our your neighbor, build a bigger table.

The only winning move is not to play their sick game. They thrive on our energy and fear, angst, doubt, and dread they stir in us. The one thing these emotional vampires hate the most is for their manipulation and terrorism to get ignored. Cut down your TV & internet usage by 97%, go local, and all of their terror goes away meanwhile we become stronger as they flail around in angst. Here’s how:

Civilization, goes and old maxim, is never more than three meals away from barbarism—once the food deliveries stop, so does law and order. Therefore, the baseline of preparedness is as follows:

Put all your support behind your local farmers, then become your own. A garden in every lawn should be standard. You can no longer trust anything from a corporation, so cutting out reliance on a retailer is a good place to start thinking about your resiliency. ‘Incorporated’ City water isn’t viable either for its quality or reliability, so wells must be dug (there is no resource more important in your life than clean water, hands down).

Beyond that, begin ending your dependence on their enslavement protocol Federal Notes by creating local currencies and discovering the lost art of bartering, and again start - these cannot be emphasized enough - stitching together webs of alliances with your neighbors for resiliency, defense, and resource sharing (they might grow what you do not and vice versa)—put the “common unity” back in community, and get control of those town councils, mayor and sherrif offices, and school boards (the few places we still hold all of the cards) and get your kids out of them. Finally: stop eating, listening to, and watching things that are bad for your mind, body, and spirit, and, if so inclined, spend a good chunk of your time on your knees each day.

Above all: Fear not. Live your life. Find your happiness. Turn your back on those who would gleefully turn it into misery. Win the game by refusing to play theirs.

All of the above is a recipe for success and if everyone did this, we would take the world back in a groundswell. Let's get to work building a future worth living in, together, because if we do not, Harari & Co will ensure we will not have one

Collapse Life's avatar

Ding-Ding-DIng!! This comment wins the Internet... at least for today. Maybe tomorrow, too.

Nicely researched and distilled. Thank you TriTorch. We do what we do because of people like you. Let's be neighbors!

TriTorch's avatar

Yes, lets!